Charles Ryland Scott Family

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John Harvie

M, b. 12 January 1704/05, d. 3 December 1767

Parents

FatherJohn Harvie (b. 6 October 1642, d. 13 October 1730)
MotherMargaret Key (b. 16 April 1648)

Children with Martha Gaines (b. 11 November 1719, d. 7 October 1802)

SonRichard Harvie+ (b. October 1743, d. 2 January 1798)
SonWilliam Harvie+ (b. 9 April 1744, d. 1819)
DaughterMary Harvie (b. 12 September 1745, d. February 1768)
SonJohn Harvie (b. 23 October 1747, d. 6 February 1807)
DaughterMartha Gaines Harvie+ (b. 24 August 1749, d. 8 January 1818)
DaughterMargaret Harvie+ (b. 9 October 1752, d. before 1815)
DaughterElizabeth Harvie+ (b. 24 August 1754, d. 1793)
SonDaniel Harvie+ (b. 11 March 1757, d. 1794)
DaughterJeanette Harvie+ (b. 13 June 1759, d. 1802)
SonWilliam Harvie+ (b. 13 February 1761, d. 1809)
Pedigree Chart
Included in charts - listsCarol Gilstrap Ancestors
Harvie - Descendants of John Harvie b. 1704
Pedigree Indented - Carol (#1)
Pedigree Indented - Carol (#2)
Relationship4th great-grandfather of Carol Jay Gilstrap
6th great-grandfather of Isaac Silas Vaughn
6th great-grandfather of Katherine Gilstrap Scott
6th great-grandfather of Joseph Ryland Scott
6th great-grandfather of Charles Parker ("Parker") Scott
6th great-grandfather of Orly Marie Vaughn
6th great-grandfather of Avital Catherine Vaughn

Biography

AnecdoteBelmont - the Harvie home and plantation "Belmont," adjoining "Edgehill," consisting of 2,500 acres, was purchased about 1730 by Colonel John Harvie, a Welshman, and friend of Colonel Peter Jefferson, the father of Thomas Jefferson, from Joshua Graves. In 1811, Col. Harvie sold to Dr. Everett the greater portion of this tract. John Rogers bought the remainder of this extensive plantation, and built the frame part of the present mansion. His great friendship for old Dr. Everett, led him to retain the name of Belmont (beautiful mountain) by simply adding "East," to show its position. His son John Rogers, Jr., built the main brick addition, or front part of the house as it now stands. All the bricks were burnt on the place, and laid by a colored man, named Lewis Level, he doing nearly all of the work himself, the substantial quality of which shows great skill. This was one of the very few brick buildings then erected along the mountains, and was quite conspicuous.



Dr. Douglas Day
Executive Director
Albemarle Charlottesville Historical Society
200 Second St., NE
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-1492www.albemarlehistory.org
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powbak38 originally shared this to Powell Family Tree
13 May 2008 story
AnecdoteIn Governor Gilmer's History of the Early Settlers of Upper Georgia,, the following profile of the Harvies is chronicled:  "The Harvies were the most numerous family of the original settlers on Broad River.  They were Scotch descent.  John Harvie, their last European ancestor, was born in Gargunnock on the shire of Striling, North Britain.  He removed from Scotland to Virginia and settled in Albemarle County about 40 years before the Revolutionary War.  John Harvie died in Virginia, so his widow, who was a Miss Gaines, accompanied her children in their move from Virginia to Broad River where she died when 80 years old."  (p. 89)
AnecdoteBirth: Dec. 20, 1706GargunnockStirling, ScotlandDeath: Dec. 3, 1767KeswickAlbemarle CountyVirginia, USAJohn was the son of John Harvie, Sr. and Margaret Kay Harvie of Stirlingshire, Scotland. John settled in Albemarle County, Virginia about 1727. John lived on an estate called “Belmont” near Keswick, Virginia, a place he bought from Matthew Graves. He bought the land, about 2,500 acres in 1730. John and his neighbors, William Randolph and Peter Jefferson were close friends, as were their children.
John married Martha Gaines in Albemarle County, Virginia on October 10, 1742. When William Randolph died in 1745, Peter was made guardian of his estate for seven years. When Peter Jefferson died in 1757, leaving no male heirs of age, John Harvie Jr. was appointed "active executor" of the estate and guardian of Peter's eldest son Thomas (then 14) until he could assume ownership of his portion of the estate at age 21. The earliest of Thomas Jefferson’s surviving letters was penned on January 14, 1760 to John Harvie, then living at the Shadwell estate. Thomas enquired whether his guardian thought it best for him to study independently or go to college, expressing that he himself thought college would be best. Apparently John Harvie agreed, and Thomas enrolled at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, VA on March 24, 1760 at age 16. John Harvie, Jr must have been proud when Thomas passed the bar exam and was admitted to practice law in the General Court of Virginia in October 1767. John Harvie died without knowing he had befriended a future president of a country not yet formed.
John was buried on his Belmont Estate, and Martha moved to Georgia to live with their daughter Elizabeth and her husband John Marks.
DNA Verified18 DNA matches through John Harvie
AnecdoteThomas Jefferson’s father, Peter Jefferson, was a surveyor in Virginia, who married Jane Randolph.  When Peter Jefferson died, he had 3 appointed trustees/administrators, one of whom was attorney John Harvie/Harvey.  At the time of Peter’s death, Thomas Jefferson was a minor and his appointed guardian was John Harvie.  John Harvie and his wife Martha Gaines Harvie took care of Thomas and they lived in the old Randolph Plantation called Tuckahoe, just to the West of Richmond, VA.  Unfortunately, John Harvie died just before the Revolution, leaving Martha and a family of children.  She went on to support the Rev War cause and is a DAR Patriot!  The Jefferson family was closely involved with the famous Meriwethers and connected families, the Johnsons, the Marks, the Jordans, the Lewis’ and the Harvies.  These men migrated to Georgia following the Revolutionary War and were the founders of the Broad Creek Settlement (also known as Goose Pond) in Oglethorpe County.  Rufus Johnson and Sarah Elizabeth Thrash are the parallel lines that include ALL of these families.  When you look at your tree and find Sheriff Thomas Johnson married to Elizabeth Thornton Meriwether, this Elizabeth Meriwether is the sister of Lucy Meriwether who married Col. William Lewis and is the mother of the famous explorer, Meriwether Lewis, and he came to age in Broad Creek Settlement!  I bet you didn’t see that coming, did you?  They are all approved Patriots in DAR and I have all the marriage records, and the wills, that show the crossover connections.  But I’m guessing that you and Carol already have that from the looks of your tree.  When I discovered this, I couldn’t believe it and the more I tried to disprove it, the more I validated it.  The fact that your DNA testing verifies this is a feather in our cap!1
Birth8 March 1696He was born on 8 March 1696 in Fintry, Gargunnock, Stirlingshire, ScotlandBG. In June, 1993, a descendant of John Clay Powell, a family member who has done research on the Powell family for several decades entered into a contract with a Scottish historian and geneaologist - Gordon A. MacGregor Comrie of that Ilk.  His findings documented the time and place of John Harvie's birth, his parents, uncles and aunts, his great grandparents and great aunt, and his gr-great grandparents.  The documentation on this research is contained in the files of the individual maintaining this family tree website. 
Mr. MacGregor examined the Old Parish Registers for Gargunnock and surrounding areas to find the birth entry of John Harvie.  The relevant Register indicates that John Harvie, the son of John Harvie and Margaret Key, took place in Fintry, a small village only a few miles west of Gargunnock on the 8th day of March, 1696.  The other children from this marriage are documented on this family tree.
Anecdote8 March 1696In June, 1993, a descendant of John Clay Powell, a family member who has done research on the Powell family for several decades entered into a contract with a Scottish historian and geneaologist - Gordon A. MacGregor Comrie of that Ilk.  His findings documented the time and place of John Harvie's birth, his parents, uncles and aunts, his great grandparents and great aunt, and his gr-great grandparents.  The documentation on this research is contained in the files of the individual maintaining this family tree website. 
Mr. MacGregor examined the Old Parish Registers for Gargunnock and surrounding areas to find the birth entry of John Harvie.  The relevant Register indicates that John Harvie, the son of John Harvie and Margaret Key, took place in Fintry, a small village only a few miles west of Gargunnock on the 8th day of March, 1696.  The other children from this marriage are documented on this family tree.
Birth12 January 1704/05He was born on 12 January 1704/05 in Fintry, Gargunnock, Stirlingshire, ScotlandBG.
Christening20 December 1705He was christened on 20 December 1705 in Gargunnock, Stirlingshire, Scotland, United KingdomBGO.2
Arrival1740He arrived in 1740 in Virginia, United StatesBGO.3
Marriage10 October 1742He and Martha Gaines were married on 10 October 1742 in Albemarle, Virginia, United StatesBGO.4
Death3 December 1767He died on 3 December 1767 at age 62 in Belmont, Albemarle, Virginia, United StatesBG.
Last Edited17 April 2021

Citations

  1. [S2726] Lisa Novarro, "Thomas Jefferson", e-mail message from (, Florida), to Ryland Scott, 16 Apr 2021
  2. [S515] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
  3. [S424] Ancestry.com, U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Place: Virginia; Year: 1740; Page Number: 160
  4. [S510] Finck Family Tree, John Harvie